Dec 16

Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte test

2008 at 05.37 pm posted by Veerle Pieters

A while ago Donna of Nokia WOM world sent me a Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte to try out. From what I understand, it is a premium phone that uses high end materials. My current phone was a Sony Ericsson K750i that I have been using a few years. It’s not a bad phone, but I only use it to make or take a call and on occasion taking a picture.

Expectations

Donna also mailed me a link (flash site so I can't directly link to the movie) to watch a video about the device so I would know what to expect. After watching the Nokia 8800 Arte inspiration video I must admit that I had very high expectations of how this phone would feel and look like.

The specs
  • High end materials
  • 3G/Tri-Band
  • 420x320 OLED Display
  • 4GB Internal Memory
  • Bluetooth
  • 3.2 Megapixel Camera
  • Battery: 3h talk/300 standby
  • Extras: Leather case, Bluetooth handsfree and table stand/dock.

The package

It all starts with the package, because in my humble opinion that's a part of the experience. I always love receiving new things from Apple just because of that. The Nokia phone arrived in a branded handbag with a black box inside. The outside box of this Nokia is black and looks stylish but once you are past the flap with the phone in wireframe shape the experience falls short, it breaks with the high end image of the phone. You immediately notice the lack of attention to detail when it comes to unwrapping. Once the box is open there aren't any details I'm afraid and it feels like that they just had to get everything in there.

The design

I'm a sucker for products that show that design was important because that creates an emotion along the way. However I must admit that I didn't know anything about this device. I didn't know of what material it was made of or what technology it used etc. The tricky part with setting high expectations is that it is hard to live up to them. The look of the phone is very modern and slick and it feels good in your hand. A little bit on the heavy side but nothing that could be viewed as negative. The weight just reinforces the superior build quality. The phone has sleek curves and a minimalist surface that is engineered from carbon fibre, stainless steel, polished glass and titanium. Carbon fibre is a strong and light material and it is that part that creates the weave pattern found on the device.

The Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte full package

The design of the primary buttons have a minimalist style which makes its function less clear at first sight. The left and right buttons look like they are one button, but they are two functions. Sometimes I accidentally pushed them wrong. The back button is so close to the other button. Then I end up somewhere else, like back at the main menu. It often meant starting over what I was doing, which is a bit frustrating. The design lives up to the expectations of the video. The only thing that was different was that I had the idea that the woven pattern could be felt when touching it, but that's not the case.

The Nokia 8800 open with keys revealed

Bluetooth headset

In the package you'll also find a Bluetooth headset that works by touching the silver band to answer the call. Pairing the headset was not to complicated but less user friendly than setting up the Apple Bluetooth headset with the iPhone, where everything happens without interference from the user. Audio quality was super and the headset worked flawlessly.

Desk stand & leather case

I have to admit that it is stylish desk stand that feels very robust and impressively weighty. It has a light stripe at the bottom that illuminates when the phone is charging, those are the kind of details that I like to see. Another good inclusion is the leather case with a handy strip mechanism that assists you when you take the phone out of the case.

Usability

A good design only works when accompanied by a good user experience. Because of this phone being a high end model I had equal expectations in using it. The slide mechanism works good and feels solid but I had the urge to use the main button in the center when sliding the phone open. Not a good idea because you activate things that way. To me it felt like the design told me to use that instead of just putting your fingers on the glass. Audio quality is really good and when you play songs on it through the speakers there is even a bass. Pretty remarkable. The included ring tones and sounds sounded very professional. The display was bright and text, video and photos look sharp on it. The biggest let down was using the display in direct sunlight. This made it completely unusable.

The battery icon confused me too, I mean the empty part versus charged part of the icon. It worked the opposite way of my Sony Ericsson K750i and because of that I was reading it wrong at first. The text of the primary buttons on screen sometimes differ in size which I find weird and inconsistent. When you send a text message, it took me a bit of time to figure out how I could add my contact in the contact field. You need to use the central navigation button for this, choose 'Contacts' and then enter the 1st letter of the contact.

The camera

Recording a movie or taking pictures works relatively easy, though I lost about 10 minutes figuring out how the zoom worked. The reason of that was a mistake in the manual, it said you have to use left and right instead of up and down.

Flaw in Nokia manual

Quality of the pictures is very good even under though conditions. The biggest frustration is finding the right spot to change the preferences. It is all over the place and inconsistant. You would guess to find it under camera but you had to change them under the global prefs of the phone. Movie quality isn't that great but good for a phone.

Surfing the web

This phone doesn't have WiFi so you have to resort to 3G. You have two ways to get on the web with this phone; one is via the web icon in the menu and the other is via Opera Mini. The web way is using a built-in browser and looks more like WAP than the real Internet. This way worked as aspected and on first try. It is just good to browse around and look at text, nothing more. To be honest, I would never used it because it doesn't make a good browsing experience. After this I thought why not try out Opera Mini because I've heard good things about it. As soon as I load Opera Mini on this device the application says the setup has failed and that a test needs to be run to figure out what connection to use. Strange thing, because the 3G works just fine with the other browser that I just tried. The setup is correct too, because I got an SMS from my provider Proximus with all the right settings in place. No matter how many times I tried and let the test run, Opera Mini wouldn't work on this phone and I'm sure the 3G was working like it should because I could browse with the other application.

Nokia browser applications

Wap

Opera Mini failed network test

Conclusion

A cool design, but a spotty operating system. This phone didn't make my K750i feel dated or difficult to use. I would even say that the K750i was easier and more logical. They both suffer from the typical phone interface that makes me hate using a phone from time to time. For me personally the user experience of this operating system doesn't match the high end expectations of the phone. When you pay 1.100 Euro I expect a lot more. It makes the 615 Euro of the iPhone 3G feel like a bargain. Another annoyance was that it didn't work with Mac. So if you want to sync your contacts, music, and photos you are out of luck. Luckily Mac OS X mounted the device on the desktop so that I could copy the pictures and movies. Nokia has ignored Mac users for ages and I believe that will cost them. Even if they would come out now with software it would feel like a little too late and a forced move because of the iPhone.

The Nokia 8800 closed

Oh and before I forget in the movie they mentioned touch sensitive but that turned out to be just a double tap to see a clock. It didn't work very well and it feels like a joke compared to the iPhone. I only started using the iPhone 3G after I mailed the Nokia back, did that deliberately to not influence my judgment. To conclude, I won't miss it and now that I used the iPhone I wouldn't want to go back at any price. Now I know what I have been missing, so much easier to use and works flawlessly together with my Mac. I guess I am not the target person for the Nokia 8800 after all.

PS: My Sony Ericsson K750i is for sale, 70 Euro and it is yours :) Belgian people only sorry.


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permalink this comment Frederic Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 06.25 pm

I’ve used Nokia for the better part of my life and changed phones every year or so. But for the last couple of years it’s been clear to me that there’s not much left of Nokia’s innovative character.

Before switching to the iPhone I had a Nokia N93. Just like with this 8800 Nokia promised a lot but couldn’t bring it home.

It’s not that it doesn’t have the functions I require, they’re just nog user-friendly or ‘finished’. The MP3-player on a Nokia is barely usable while Apple has a fully functional iPod with very intuitive controls on the iPhone.
It’s the same with the browser. It’s almost 2009 and Nokia can’t even manage to put Wifi and a decent browser on one of its top models? I had Wifi on my N93, but because of the poor performance of the browser and signal strength I never used it. Now, with my iPhone I use it on a daily base.

You’re always at risk of sounding like a fanboy when comparing the iPhone against other cellphones, but for me it’s clear that Apple has a far better view of what the customer actually wants than Nokia, Sony, Samsung or HTC. We can only hope that Android helps change this.


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permalink this comment Chris Besett Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 06.43 pm

I have had the new iPhone for months now and still feel it is the first cell phone that i’ve ever felt i could not be without.  If you’re only concern is making calls then not worth it—but all the other features that are a part of the platform make it stand out. 

It’s also funny how all the phone manufacturers that mocked the iphone when it came out are now scrambling to try to emulate it (without looking like they are.)

did i mention how cool it looks sitting in its dock next to my macbook pro?  :)


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permalink this comment kMikaZu Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 07.12 pm

I suppose you didn’t try the Apple software from Nokia? It’s free, very stable and good and mac-alike: http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_217191

iSync and Multimedia Transfer, it all works for this model!


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permalink this comment Veerle Pieters Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 07.45 pm

kMikaZu said:

I suppose you didn’t try the Apple software from Nokia? It’s free, very stable and good and mac-alike

No I didn’t and didn’t even know it existed. Must be something new. Anyway it doesn’t change my mind about the software part, should have been on the CD. If you pay that much for a phone you don’t want to go through extra loops just to get it.


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permalink this comment kMikaZu Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 07.56 pm

I agree that Nokia should put a driver and software for mac on the cd. But a good review also covers the part of download-software ;-) Otherwise a lot of products would have been bad on that part (because they don’t make cd’s anymore for their products).

Anyway, I’m a new user of an iPhone. It’s good, very good. But I still miss some features off my old N82. The iPhone still isn’t that complete. Making video, sending contacts, ... But with every update it’s getting better and better and I hope that Apple finds a way to implement this things…


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permalink this comment Stephen Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 08.17 pm

I really dislike Nokia, I’m not quite sure why, but I just do not like the very blurred screen.


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permalink this comment Kev Adamson Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 09.01 pm

I have an LG KF750 and I *HATE* it.

It’s the perfect example of form over function:

- It’s heavy
- Unless you fingers taper at the ends it’s hard to use the nonsense token gesture touch screen buttons
- The camera is blurry
- It looks like a drinks mat for a whisky glass
- It’s trying too hard

I’m waiting patiently for all the Android phones to bed into the market. iPhone needs some competition to improve 3rd generation phones for the better.

Knowing Google, they will put “total design” ahead of just aesthetic design with usability wrapped around.

Rant over :P


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permalink this comment David Price Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 10.32 pm

Guys, I was so excited about the Nokia Arte when it hit the UK in May 08, purchased it from carphonewarehouse for £700.

Not to be harsh but apart from the fact that it has an inbuilt 2gb memory and the fact that it is partially made out of glass it is over rated. The backing of the slider came off within the first 5 months and started to crash.

Hopefully the carbon is an improvement.


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permalink this comment Vlad Dumitrica Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 08.26 am

It’s a real shame such an expensive handset is powered by such a weak platform, i.e. Series40.

I believe Series60 would have been more appropriate for this handset, mainly due to the better browsing experience the Webkit-based browser delivers.

Such a mobile phone deserves better PIM functions, advanced applications and more customization options that Series40 is simply not able to deliver.

As for the drivers, Nokia should have at least put a link to their site.


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permalink this comment Ms. Jen Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09.36 am

Hi Veerle!

Happy pre-Holidays.  I hope all is well in Duoh-land.

One of the things that I find odd about Nokia, even though I am a big fan of the Nseries line, is that the high-end phones have odd UIs.

In my world, I keep coming back to Nokia, not because of the UI, but because of the 5 megapixel camera on the N95 & N82, of which the iPhone can’t compete.  And as a photo mobloggers, a great camera with an internet connection is everything to me.

I did recently get to play with a t-Mobile G1 android phone and much preferred its UI to the iPhone.  I would be interested in your take on the G1, the physical device itself is a bit wonky but the OS is nice.

smiles, jen ;o)


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permalink this comment kalevskis Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 10.51 am

Nokia is definitely leader in mobile phone production industry, but they have to work much more to become what is Apple in computer industry, it they want to get in neater touch with customers.


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permalink this comment Elisa Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 11.56 am

Basically, the only thing you’re paying for with the Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte is the material (carbon fibre, stainless steel, polished glass and titanium) and frankly it’s SO not worth it especially if the user experience is just as lousy as it is with any Nokia phone regardless of pricepoint.

Same thing is with Motorola’s new high end, ridiculously priced Aura… posh material and that’s all it is. And SO not worth the… what is it, like 2000 dollars?!

Yeah, if you’re forced to fork over 1000 euros or dollars for a phone, it better have an equally impressive OS to go with the impressive materials its made of otherwise forget it.


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permalink this comment fwolf Sat Dec 20, 2008 at 05.37 am

mounting .. well, that means it’ll going to work under Linux / Unix, too. Thats at least something you wont get with other mobile phones.

cu, w0lf.


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permalink this comment Robert Sun Dec 21, 2008 at 05.52 am

I must be one of the only people I know that is not wow’ed by the iPhone. My wife recently upgraded to the iPhone 3G, and while I admit it’s a nice phone, and a great experience in comparison to a large number of phones, I still prefer my Nokia N95. Better battery life, whether using 3G or WiFi, the better camera. I’m amazed that someone above stated that they didn’t like the “blurry” screen - no idea how a 480x320 OLED screen could be considered “blurry”.

Interestingly, the first thing my wife had to get installed after getting an iPhone was iTunes, and immediately after installing from the CD the first thing it had her do was install a new version from the net - suboptimal, to say the least.


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permalink this comment tsk Fri Dec 26, 2008 at 11.05 am

My trusty Sony Ericsson W800, in the same league with your K750, died on me after three years of flawless usage.

I’m having a hard time finding a phone that would meet its robustness and common-sense. I’ve tried Nokia’s high-end phones and I find them lacking in so many ways. They’re not as smart as they appear mainly because of the complicated user interface.

I second your opinion that the iPhone is a great device that actually doubles as a good phone also.

Still, not even Sony Ericsson has managed to keep up with the UI part of technology and their phones are getting less and less exciting from my point of view.



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