May 22

Netsquared project part 2

2006 at 12.27 am posted by Veerle Pieters

As promised this the sequel to our chat about the Net2 project that I finished a while ago. In part 1 I talked about creating the brand/identity for NetSquared so if you didn’t read it, I suggest that you go there first to get a better understanding about the project. This part will be about the creation of the website. Once you have the final logo and colors beaten down you’re all set to start the design phase of the website.

The first building blocks

I don't know if all designers work in a similar fashion but the logo and colors are always my starting points. I know that some don't think about color right away, but I almost always do because color has such a huge impact on the final outcome. Another element that is important to the first building blocks is communication. That's where I always find a great difference between let's say a Belgian or US company. Here they tend to organize a meeting for every little detail and the motto is "the more the merrier ". I mean no disrespect but most of those are a pure waste of time. I understand the necessity to sometimes meet face to face but from my experience many of them could be handled by just supplying me a document with the goals of the project. That is something that a client should know from the start of the project or it will became a problem later on. So far we never had a communication problem with a foreign client thanks to all modern technologies iChat, iChat Video, Skype, etc. The time difference is only a matter of setting out some guidelines that you are not longer available after a certain hour.

NetSquared website project

The Design

The goals for the website were to give "Share and Build" the most visibility since the project was about helping hundreds of thousands of non-profit organizations (NPOs) and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) successfully utilize the community empowering capabilities of the Internet to increase their impact and achieve social change. The first thing I created was the header. My mind was already sure to use rounded corners because those elements are also found in the Chalet typeface of the logo. To visualize the build and share items I came up with the idea to create icons in a similar look as the icon in the logo. The last element of the page is the navigation at the bottom. My client really loved the way Flickr used their navigation and wanted something similar for Net2. Personally this was not one of my favorites decisions because I thought about the inner-pages and the fact that these could be very long, so the user had to scroll all the way down. Another tough cookie design wise was to make something beautiful of all the items that needed a place in this navigation.

The challenges that we faced

In each project a designer faces there are challenges that one needs to overcome. That was no different in this Net2 project. If you are a passionate designer your work is like a little baby and you want it to treasure it as long as possible. Reality is harsh and that's especially true when the marketing people enter the scene after seeing the design. They like the design so the sales people are not the boogie men but they always need the largest screen estate for sponsoring. In the case of a non-profit this the life line of the project, so it's very important. In my initial design I placed the sponsors under the content in a subtle way. The problem was they were outside the 800x600 area by a fraction and the sales people didn't like that. So I had to rethink my design again. Below you'll find some of the design iterations.

NetSquared website project - initial homepage design

NetSquared website project - adjusted homepage design

NetSquared website project - homepage design phase 2

You'll even notice that there is a big difference between what is online now and my final design. The sponsor logos are much bigger. It comes down to the point that you have to let it go at a certain point and hope that the client understands the value of keeping things professionally and pretty design wise. I could waste a lot of time in bringing issues forward to the client each time I see something that is not right but that's the real world for you. I am a perfectionist so that's my problem ;o)

Interesting stuff on the site

It is cool to read how technology can help the non-profits sector. Of interest is also the vlog section, short video interviews with interesting people like Matt Mullenweg, lead developer of the blog software WordPress, Buzz Andersen, developer of Cocoalicious and PodWorks, Craig Newmark of Craig's List and Mena Trott, President and Co-Founder of Six Apart.

The NetSquared Conference

Their conference in San Francisco is coming close now (May 30th) and they have a huge list of interesting speakers like Chris Messina of Flock and BarCamp/WineCamp and Tantek Çelik, Chief Technologist at Technorati and co-founder of the microformats.org, two gentlemen that I had the pleasure of meeting briefly at SXSW in Austin. I hope it will be a huge success and I wish them all the luck. Deadlines where tight sometimes but I really enjoyed working on this project ;)


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permalink this comment Vladislav Mon May 22, 2006 at 01.01 am

Amazing design, Veerle!


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permalink this comment Martin Labuschin Mon May 22, 2006 at 01.15 am

Thanks for the view in your work


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permalink this comment Paul Bidwell Mon May 22, 2006 at 02.14 am

Nice design!


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permalink this comment HugoBoss Mon May 22, 2006 at 02.40 am

Again, superb design and thanks to share your insights on the process.

I have to agree with you that the sponsor logos are just too big on the final site. Scrolling should be limited to an absolute minimum, plus it degrades some of the aestethic aspects (the big white space below the fotos?)


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permalink this comment Mario Mon May 22, 2006 at 04.15 am

It’s really nice to read how your project was created but I have a question that I get all the time and if possible I’d like it if you could answer me to my email.

Do your clients tend to show you websites they like and say “I want something like this!”? What do you say to them to decieve them from that idea and let you be creative?


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permalink this comment Shani elharrar Mon May 22, 2006 at 04.44 am

Great design, simple is better :)


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permalink this comment Erwin Heiser Mon May 22, 2006 at 07.05 am

Thanks for having us take a look inside the kitchen, so to speak :)


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permalink this comment marnie webb Mon May 22, 2006 at 12.30 pm

Thanks for sharing the insights into the design process. I’ve got to say: as a client it was a genuine pleasure working w/ you.  We learned a lot about letting go trying to tell a high caliber designer all the details and instead, trying to communicate the intent and letting the designer do the work of translating that.  You did a great job of turning what we thought the project was about into a website.


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permalink this comment Brian Delicata Mon May 22, 2006 at 12.40 pm

Thanks Veerle for this.

By any chance is NetSquared running on Drupal?


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permalink this comment billy b Mon May 22, 2006 at 02.01 pm

Veerle,
First, a GIANT thank you for helping us bring this project to life!  I believe your design helped us move this beyond our core supporters, and gave us a legitimacy with some of the ‘web 2.0’ crowd that we didn’t have before.  You are terrific. 

Second, apologies for the short deadlines and unrealistic expectations at times during the design process.  We were very ambitious with our goals from the outset.  Sometimes, so much so, that we had to get a reality check from you and others supporting our work.  Thanks for your gentle way of pushing -back when neccessary.  It kept us humble.

Third, we’re gonna miss you next week!  Really sorry you can’t make it out to the show, but
stay tuned for the online portion of the event here: http://www.netsquared.org/remote
Speaking of which...would you like to participate as a session speaker during the online portion of the event?
We’d love to have you talk about this blog entry (design process, design for nonprofits) or whatever else is tickling your fancy at the moment.  I’ll send you an email with the details.  Just ping me if you’re interested.

Hope you’ve been well.

Warmly,
-bb


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permalink this comment Kurt Potts Mon May 22, 2006 at 03.06 pm

Superb design!
It is nice to follow another designers process. I’m allways amazed at how much a design can change from your final proposall to what is in use.


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permalink this comment Veerle Tue May 23, 2006 at 02.58 am

Brian Delicata said:

By any chance is NetSquared running on Drupal?

Yes the Net2 runs on Drupal.

Marnie webb said

I’ve got to say: as a client it was a genuine pleasure working w/ you

Hi Marnie and Billy, the pleasure was all mine! Sent you a mail Billy ;)


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permalink this comment Jan Varhol Tue May 23, 2006 at 04.55 am

cool, I like that balance between colors and shapes… it’s fantastic, but there is one thing - that main buttons in red header does not have shapes until I move mouse over it.
Great work :)


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permalink this comment Sara Tue May 23, 2006 at 06.15 am

Hi Veerle,

A question about screenlayout… do you use photoshop or illustrator to start sketching, puzzling, coloring and moving things around ?

Thanks!
Sara


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permalink this comment Ipso Tue May 23, 2006 at 07.21 am

How to make sure the (rgb)colors look not too light on mac, not too dark on win? Use Lab colors?

Do you use gamma correction to meet halfway, a matter of contrast adjusting?


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permalink this comment George Ornbo Tue May 23, 2006 at 03.58 pm

Interesting about communicating with clients. I’ve found that the ease of communicating can cause clients to be lazy. They use iChat / Skype to brainstorm and then expect you to have noted everything. As you mention a solid , well thought out brief saves the designer time and gives the client a focus on what needs to be achieved. It is a fine line between pushing clients for a good brief and being inflexible though!


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permalink this comment Veerle Wed May 24, 2006 at 01.10 pm

@Sara said:

A question about screenlayout… do you use photoshop or illustrator to start sketching, puzzling, coloring and moving things around ?

I use both. I use Illustrator for all illustration work, like the icons and the background images in the ‘share’ and ‘build’ boxes. I copy paste these in Photoshop as a Smart Object which contains my global design/layout of the webpage.

@Ipso said:

How to make sure the (rgb)colors look not too light on mac, not too dark on win? Use Lab colors? Do you use gamma correction to meet halfway, a matter of contrast adjusting?

To be honest I don’t do any of these corrections. I do check my designs on both platforms but I look on a quality flat screen, on both my Mac and Dell PC which are both well calibrated. I mean, you need to base the result on a good screen not a bad one, otherwise if you tweak too much to make it look prefect on a ‘not so good calibrated’ screen it won’t look OK anymore on a quality screen, so that’s not good either. The well calibrated screen is the reference and I must say our Dell flat screen don’t show much difference with our Mac screen. We opt for a more expensive model from Dell.

@George Ornbo said:

I’ve found that the ease of communicating can cause clients to be lazy. They use iChat / Skype to brainstorm and then expect you to have noted everything.

Yes you’re right you have to lead some clients in a certain direction. Luckily most of them know that they need to get things organized so we know exactly what to do and so we save time. In my experience, my clients ask me how I’m used to work and how they should deliver me the info/detials. Or if they pass on corrections, I just ask if I need to take notes right away or not. If it’s a long list than I ask them friendly if they don’t mind putting that on a mail so I won’t make mistakes or forget anything, it’s just more efficient. It all depends a bit on the situation I guess. It’s not that I ask them to send me an e-mail that for every little update or detail of course.


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permalink this comment Ipso Thu May 25, 2006 at 03.08 am

@Veerle said:

The well calibrated screen is the reference and I must say our Dell flat screen don’t show much difference with our Mac screen.

LCD screens (like the studio display I use on mac) everything looks brighter though. The big difference is CRT monitors which are darker by default.


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permalink this comment Veerle Thu May 25, 2006 at 04.47 am

@Ipso: one aspect of calibrating is brightness. So if you set the brightness of an LCD correctly, the result should look very similar to a CRT screen. Of course there is the technological difference and it will never be 100% exactly the same, but you should get a pretty good idea though. There is good calibrating hardware/software out there that you can use.


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permalink this comment Ipso Fri May 26, 2006 at 12.11 am

the result should look very similar to a CRT screen.

The mac has Color Sync build-in where windows monitors are more difficult to calibrate. I used the adobe gamma tool and now how to use it *with the human eye*. Older CRT monitors will start to saturate the colors as in my case, though I managed to make it the best as possible. Gamma is set to 2.2 which is a average value.

I found a tool which sets the gamma for appleto be set for print or web
gammatoggle


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permalink this comment Reece Thu Jun 15, 2006 at 05.24 pm

I was just revisiting this topic from a while back.  I went to the netsquared page and I noticed that under “BUILD” and “Tools for Change - Accessibility”, there was and extra space that was not changing color when I hovered over it.  I checked the source code and I see that the “<a>” tag is not closed correctly for some reason. It is just “<a>” instead of “</a>”.  I’m not sure how that happened, but I just thought Veerle might want to know.


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permalink this comment Reece Sat Jun 17, 2006 at 02.01 am

Okay, it’s gone now.  I guess that someone found it.  Love ya, Veerle.



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