Dec 13
Digital asset management
2004 at 07.15 am posted by Veerle Pieters
Digital asset management that is the “fancy” term of the topic from last Friday. Since then I’ve tested several of the applications that were mentioned in the comments. For those that haven’t been following along we we’re talking about archiving solutions for all the files that we have to deal with in our daily job. In our case that is a DVD full of all kind of files like fonts, icons, music, QuickTime files, eps, psd, pdf, Abobe Illustrator, InDesign, Quark etc.
The workflow we use now is burning the disc with Toast and putting all the files into a FileMaker Database. A huge task when you do it manually on a 4,7 GB DVD. Someone mentioned to do it via AppleScript but hey I’m a designer and not a script programmer ;-) FileMaker isn’t ideal since you don’t see a preview of the files etc, sometimes that’s needed to trace the right document.
CatFinder 2.7.0
An old program that has been carbonized to run on Mac OS X but it uses none of all the features that are available in Mac OS X like anti aliasing, previews etc. Even the folders that show the content look like we are back in system 7. By only looking at the icon you know what the deal is with this app. This application has no future unless it gets a major overhaul.
DiskTracker 2.31
The same explanation from above applies to DiskTracker too. It’s an old Mac OS 8/9 app that got a quick carbon port to Mac OS X. The folders look a little better then CatFinder but not much. No anti aliasing, no icon support like in the Mac OS X finder no preview etc. It does its job of indexing a cd, but if I am going to pay for software it has to at least benefit from all the features that the operating system has to offer. In short I want more. A missed opportunity!
CDFinder 4.3
The first application that has a pretty descent look. At least it supports some of the possibilities of the Mac OS X finder. It has anti aliasing and uses the folders like you have specified if your are using CandyBar for example. The best application so far but that wasn’t too difficult to achieve. It doesn’t preview any file type, also a missed opportunity since this would make it a good shareware app. Why do I want a preview, well if you archive, chances are you’re going to come across files with similar names and a preview would directly give you the answer you need. The fact is, we do not always use the perfect naming scheme so that it is crystal clear what is in that file.
Tri-Catalog 5
As far as indexing a volume is concerned this application is the winner. It is fast in indexing a complete dvd and uses some of the build-in features of the operating system. Tri-Catalog is also the first application that has a preview but there are some flaws since the preview isn’t sharp but blurry. It seems that when you put the DVD back in you get a slightly better preview. The other applications that are coming, prove that it is possible to show a decent preview of any file type even when the CD or DVD is not mounted. A good attempt but far from perfect since the user interface could be a lot better. To be honest it also suffers from the Mac OS 8/9 syndrome. When you select a folder it shows it flaws, you get a jaggy edge around the folder icons and some of the little previews aren’t anti aliased, but if I would be forced to choose one from all the above this would be the one.
The remaining 3 applications are much more then just a indexing application for burned CD’s or DVD’s.
Portfolio 7
Portfolio is more of an application to manage all your digital files like pictures, psd, ai, eps, pdf’s, ppt, etc. You can do a lot more then just indexing a CD or DVD. So for some this application may be overkill. One important thing you’ll notice from the moment that the program is running is that it is the first application tested so far that has an interface that is Mac OS X worthy. This is how an application should look! Indexing takes a lot longer then all other applications tested but that’s because Portfolio extracts a preview from every file, you can even set the size of the preview when you start importing. So you can see a preview of psd, pdf, indesign, movies, swf, etc. and if you do a preview and then choose switch to original you can see the layers that are present in that particular file.
In circumstances where there is no preview like a dmg file or sit file for example you see the icon as you would see it in the finder. Scrolling through a database of 5000 thumbnails was very fast on our 1 Ghz dual G4. You can also create a catalog and burn it from Portfolio. There is way too much possible to explain everything here with this program so if you want to see it in action you can view a bunch of video tutorials on the Extensis website and get a better idea of the power of this application.
I get the idea that it is not set up to be an indexing program for all kind of files, it’s more a catalog of all your graphic design files BUT it is very usable as an indexing application and the bonus is that you can do a hell lot more with it. One thing is crystal clear if you’re a photographer then this is your app since it’s iPhoto on serious steroids. You can create contact sheets, print them, make a website of them etc. It is recommend that you watch those videos.
DEVONthink
A bit of an outsider since it’s a notepad, outliner, scrapbook manager, information manager, freeform database, archive, bookmark manager and image database, all in one integrated application. So it’s more an information manager since it’s a replacement for a whole bunch of programs. It’s not the right application for what we are searching for but it has and uses some interesting features that could be put to use in an indexing program for CD or DVD. The creators have used all the features available from the operating system like scaling thumbnails, build in browser (based on WebKit), text editor etc. You can save content from the build in browser, advanced text editing including rulers, highlighting and real-time word count etc.
When I was importing dmg files it was cataloging the inner workings like the resources and plist. That behavior alone makes it no candidate for what we are looking for. But as we said above the developers are using a lot of interesting stuff. If some of those features would be implemented in a digital asset management program you would get a first class application.
Mnemo
A review of this program is a bit difficult since there is no demo to download so the info on the Artwork Systems website is all we have. A nice and with attention to details place btw. Artwork Systems is a Belgian company that has products for pre-press solutions. The program exists of Mnemo Server (OS X) and its MySQL Pro database. The database is consulted with the Mnemo client that can be copied to any Mac where access is required to the database. They make great use of Mac OS X technology since it supports Rendezvous which means zero configuration to setup the client. For managing your graphic design files it seems like the ideal solution because when you do a preview on the file you get all kinds of info like separations (Pantone colors), fonts, order number, paper used, barcode etc.
It is also difficult to get an idea without a demo. For example, not sure if it support all kinds of files like dmg, QuickTime, Flash etc. For that information I rely on Frederick, a reader and employee of ArtWork systems. Also as he said in the comments Friday it is not cheap but, have no clue what is “not cheap” ? ;-) All in all it sounds like a very promising application but that all depends on its features and how much it costs.
My ideal application
Since I already own portfolio because I bought the Photo Imaging Suite I will use portfolio for my indexing. We were already planning on using it to manage our ever growing collection of royalty free pictures. This is no sales pitch, but I only want to inform my readers on a great deal that is now available on the Extensis website. From now until December 31st you get 50% off on all sales. An interesting deal that I want to mention.
Next on the list is a mockup on how I see the ideal application. Look for that in an upcoming post.
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Have you tried iView Media Pro? It is quite worthy of inclusion in this list even if it has become more pricey. I think it is a solid app.
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Thanks for the reviews and recommendations. You might also want to check out iView Media Pro . I used an earlier version and found it quite easy to use, but didn’t work with it enough to recommend or not.
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Hi Veerle - What a good time for this topic! I am just now looking for a solution to indexing our many CD’s of fotos, drawings and CAD projects. I had a very quick look at Filemaker 7.1 and it seemed to handle the tasks of indexing a whole CD and was able to build thumbnails of the fotos relatively fast. Of course adding the keywords and other stuff is where more human intervention is needed. Portfolio seems like a good solution as well. Question: Are you using Filemaker presently? or Portfolio. Portfolio doesn’t support the .dwg forma, I notice. I would be interested on what others think might be a good solution. cheers....
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Good to hear that Portfolio might do the trick. As far as price goes - I do think it’s a fair price to pay for what is probably the best OS X indexing application out there.
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As other have said before, iView Media Pro or even iView Media are really great app. I’ve tried Portfolio a couple of times but always gone back to iView Media. The info panel is simply incredible, it has info I didn’t even know existed on my digital photo’s.
I would also recommend a second look at CDFinder, even if the app needs a really big upgrade in interface for OS X, it’s still the fastest I’ve used. I have ALL my cd in it and it’s incredibly fast.
I’ll try again Portfolio, just in case.
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A short comment form the Author of CDFinder:
You should have stated more clearly that you are looking for digital picture assets. CDFinder can already handle MP3, AAC, WAVe, AIFF, and Audio-CD data very well, which are digital media assets allright, so the note that CDFinder doesn’t preview anything is not exactly on the point. What you are looking for is image previews, and not meta data, although meta data is in ost cases even more useful. The next release of CDFinder will import and index IPTC and EXIF meta data, along with more photo meta data, such as the dimensions and more…
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@Ken & Marilyn: I’ve downloaded iView Media Pro and tested it and it’s a great asset for files like pictures, psd, ai, etc but it has the same flaw that it doesn’t recognize dmg files so it scans the resources folder instead. Sit files are also ignored. So no ideal candidate but this sure is a serious competitor for Portfolio since it has a clear user interface. The problem is that both Portfolio and iView Media Pro are not built to be used as database for cd or dvd with all kind of files since they also don’t show the structure as it is on the cd or dvd. iView Media Pro does have a folder view on the bottom left but I don’t find it useful since it only shows the folder content when you’re on that particular folder. For example if you click a parent folder that contains several other folders you don’t get to see the included folders you have to click the parent folder open, then the child folder etc.
@giovanni: Yes I am currently using Filemaker but it is too much work to put all that data in manually. Both Portfolio and iView Media Pro are ideal for managing CD’s of photos, drawings, fonts movies but not ideal for what I want since our dvd’s are also filled with updates to applications, software that we bought online etc and that’s where iView Media Pro has trouble. Portfolio does support dmg, sit and installers it just shows the icon as you would see it in the finder. What I don’t like is that the hierarchy of how the dvd or cd looks is lost when you see the content in Portfolio. As Stephane said above the info panel in iView Media Pro is great so you should try both to see which one you prefer.
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@Norbert M. Doerner: I am not looking for a digital picture assets like IPTC and EXIF meta data since those are found in Portfolio or iView Media Pro. What I want is some of the features that those programs are capable of. Those two programs can do too much for what I’m looking for. The ideal program for me has to display the hierarchy of the cd as is now in CDFinder but what I find not useful is that the scanned cd has no little triangle, you have to click on view content first and then this opens in another window. Personally I found that cumbersome. To make myself clear I’ll give an example of what I mean. When I’m looking for let’s say a psd file for a design proposal, I want a preview so that I don’t have to open that file in Photoshop instead. That’s what I like in Portfolio and iView Media Pro they show previews on ai, psd, Indesign, fonts etc.
And about the fact that CDFinder doesn’t preview anything. When you select a file in CDFinder you don’t get a preview. I’ve tried that even with an audio file like aif. When I hold the second mouse button there is no preview and I’ve searched in the available menus. I want a behavior like you get in the three column finder window, that’s what I mean with no preview. If it is there then you’ll have to show me since I couldn’t figure it out. As I said I’ll post a mockup of how I see an interface in an upcoming post.
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correction: ( i assume this would work with a CD or DVD as well)
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thx for the input. Let me stress that a preview function is essential no matter which program.
With the filemaker demo that i saw dropping a folder ( i assume this would work with a CD/DVD as well) in combo with Adobe Image Ready it imported and resized all fotos to a thumbnail and one could then preview the folders. Seemed slicked. but I didn’t try indexing key words nor could i tell wether i could easily rename the generic foto names to domething meaningful as Portfolio seems to offer. By the way What is the regular price of Portfolio, cause i don’t see a 50% saving. I onlysee the option of paying 199.00
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@Giovanni: It seems that the 50% off is not on Portfolio but if you buy the Digital imaging Suite for about $225 then you have all the applications and Portfolio for a great price.
Problem with Filemaker is that you have to script for something like you are talking about. I know a little bit of Filemaker but not enough to automate such a task.
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Hi Veerle, I also read your newer post, about Imago. It sounds interesting, too. And, just by chance, I saw this, Photos 4.1, which sounds similar to Imago, but doesn’t make up gallery pages for you, and is open source, for those brave souls who can deal with it. I don’t see if it handles all the files types you are interested in though.
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Don’t forget Phrasea: www.phrasea.com
The best!
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@kMikaZu: I am a bit confused, do you have tested this application since I don’t see any download link? Can you tell me a little more about it please?
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Veerle - i think you have been spamed by MikaZu.
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@giovanni: No I am sure because I already know kMikaZu. He is a fellow Mac user from Belgium. I just want to know a little bit more about the product because you don’t see any screenshots etc.
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Ok ...my apologies to MikaZu. But i, like you, saw nothing on the site that pertained to DAM software. I look forward to more info…
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I’m not a spammer. ;)
Phrasea is the most powerfull database, archive, indexing, publishing-tool there is. Now they are working on an new version that works with Safari and a MySql-server. Maybe that’s the reason they still don’t have screenshots. They are also very severe, but correct with serials. It’s the best tool i know, fully scriptable.
Veerle, if you ‘re interested, I can give you an adress where they sell and demo it!
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@kMikaZu, yes please do, thankx ;-)
So you have worked with it and can recommend the database?
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I recommend taking a look at Canto Cumulus. http://www.canto.com At over 10 years old Cumulus is a very robust and mature collection of software. Over 140 different file types supported, fully scriptable through Applescript or VB.
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Not quite sure, but maybe this could be of some use when dealing with digital asset management. Have not tested it out, but will get one in pretty soon, so if interes, I can write a review for it.
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For personal use, iView media pro is an excellent solution. But what about a DAM solution for business. Businesses need the ability to store and archive 1,000’s of images and marketing jobs. They also need to share the assets with vendors (ad agencies, printers, PR etc), distributors and resellers; from anywhere and at any time. Business need a solution that is accessible, visual and searchable without the restrictions of firewalls and file size limitations.
MyBrandVault is an excellent soution designed to address the needs of businesses both large and small. Check it out at www.MyBrandVault.com
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Hi,
Notice you guys are discussing DAM.
Have you tried out this system - www.resourca.com - there is a link on the website to try a demo.
It’s a corporate system but seems reasonable.
Dan